twmfc
13 January 2021 17:34
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All my email is hosted on 3rd party servers and I’d like to install and use Sympl only as a web / database server.
Specifically I’d like to exclude the following packages from the install [or be able to cleanly uninstall them via a script post a full install]:
sympl-ftp
Will Sympl run as a web / database server without the above packages and if so is there a recommended way to go about it?
The Symbiosis documentation always suggested that individual packages could be installed but I never worked out how.
I did see this thread [Using Sympl only for email - #3 by pwaring ] but that aside my forum search did not find anything that helped answer my question so I hope I’ve not missed anything.
Thanks in advance.
TW
Welcome @twmfc !
Yes, Sympl should be fine if you uninstall the mentioned packages after a normal install, or otherwise install the others without them.
You may still want to install Exim or similar to handle outgoing mail if you want the server to send mail normally for admin/notification purposes.
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twmfc
13 January 2021 19:13
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Thanks very much for the prompt reply, the confirmation that what I’m after is possible and for resurrecting Symbiosis as Sympl!
Reading the documentation wiki I’m not 100% certain how to install only the subset of packages I need, I’m guessing the automated install method is not what I’m looking for.
Would the following work or am I on the wrong track?
wget -qO- http://mirror.mythic-beasts.com/mythic/support@mythic-beasts.com.gpg.key | apt-key add -
echo deb Index of /mythic $(grep ‘^VERSION_CODENAME’ /etc/os-release | cut -d’=’ -f2) main > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sympl_mythic-beasts.list
apt-get update
apt-get install sympl-core
TW
You could do it that way, or you could do the automated install and then apt-get remove all the packages you mentioned in your first post. I’m pretty sure none of the packages you need to keep depends on any of them.
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twmfc
13 January 2021 19:43
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Thanks very much,
I’ll spin up, in the near future, a newly imaged Debian Buster and give it a try.
Thanks to both of you for your help.
TW
twmfc
14 January 2021 17:48
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Hi,
I spun up a Mythic Beasts VM [1GB] using Debian Buster, update the APT repositories and then:
apt-get update
I’d expected this to only install a small subset of the core Sympl suite? But it wanted to install:
The following additional packages will be installed:
Which looks like the full suite?
I went ahead anyway, thinking I would remove the packages I did not want post the install(s). However the install looks to have hung at:
…
I’ll re-image the server and have another go but if I’m doing something obviously wrong any pointers would be appreciated!
TW
Apt will tend to install all the recommended packages as well, which is probably why you’re seeing all the dependencies added.
Try apt install --without-recommends sympl-core and see how it goes.
twmfc
14 January 2021 20:00
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Hi Paul,
I took a slighlty different tack.
When I re-imaged I opted for the Mythic Beast Sympl [Debian Buster] image and this ran through fine and I quickly had a Sympl system up and running.
I then:
apt-get purge --auto-remove sympl-dns
And these, on the whole, looked to have ran through O.K and after uninstalling the above packages and rebooting Sympl is still running and serving the default website.
Whilst I’ll have a play with things over the next day or two, I don’t feel 100% confident that I’ve ended up with as clean an install as I would have liked and perhaps in my use case I may be better off just building the lamp stack manually.
Thanks for your and Anahata’s help in getting me this far!
TW
That sounds good - eveything should be modular with the relevant dependencies, but it’s not something that was tested in Symbiosis, so if you do run into any issues let us know and we can update the dependencies.